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The Modern Moms Roadmap to Balance Podcast
Is it really possible to find balance as a mom? Each week, I'll be bringing you inspiring chats, interviews, and dialogues all based around helping moms like you unlock their potential and lead the balanced life they want. If you enjoy listening to topics that help you lead a more balanced life, then you've come to the right place. I'm obsessed with helping moms lead the life they want without the guilt.
With the right information and support, you can find balance in motherhood without sacrificing your needs.
The Modern Moms Roadmap to Balance Podcast
Episode 47: Empowering Therapist Moms: Business Success and Family Balance with Special Guest Dr. Brittany McGeehan
Feeling overwhelmed by the chaos of motherhood and business life? In this episode of Modern Moms Roadmap to Balance, we chat with Dr. Brittany McGeehan, therapist, business coach, and founder of the Truth Teller Circle. Brittany redefines balance, showing moms that it’s not about perfection—it’s about prioritizing what matters most, outsourcing without guilt, and embracing flexibility in all stages of life.
Explore the power of self-care through holistic practices like Reiki and fascia-focused massage, as Brittany and I share how these techniques can transform your emotional well-being and disrupt unhealthy control patterns. You’ll hear about Dr. Brittany's experiences with Julie Ray, a myofascial release expert, and learn how these gentle practices can help moms manage stress, strengthen relationships, and create generational wealth while juggling family and career.
Break free from people-pleasing and mindset barriers as Brittany dives into the struggles therapist moms face, from charging premium rates to letting go of the constant need to prove their worth. We also explore the balance between masculine and feminine energy, inner child work, and how building a strong community can help you achieve both personal and professional success.
Tune in for a conversation full of practical tips, inspiring stories, and mindset shifts that will empower you to redefine success and create a life that truly feels like YOURS.
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Kayla Nettleton is a licensed therapist based in TX, business owner, mom of 3 kids and coach for therapists who want support and guidance in their journey in creating an aligned business model so that they can live the freedom based life they've always dreamed of without sacrificing their own needs.
In her private practice as a therapist Kayla specialize in helping women overcome anxiety, perfectionism and people pleasing tendencies so that they can lead a more fulfilled and authentically aligned life
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Welcome back everyone to the Modern Moms Roadmap to Balance podcast. I'm Kayla Nettleton, your host, and today our guest is Dr Brittany McGeehan, and Brittany is a dynamic business coach and dedicated therapist, entrepreneur and mother. She is the founder of the Truth Teller Circle, a vibrant community where therapists come together to master business skills and transform their practices. And self-proclaimed magic maker in her home, she's passionate about teaching women to value their worth, both at home and in business. Work less hours so they can spend more time blowing bubbles with their babies and still take as the many paid vacations a year as they want.
Speaker 1:Brittany truly believes we can have it all. We just have to be brave enough to believe we deserve it. Thank you so much, brittany, for being here and as I was reading that piece where it's like that you believe we can have it all that's literally in the intro of my podcast that I totally believe that us, as moms, can have it all. We just need to. We just need to believe in ourselves and believe that. It is like we're worthy of having it all and doing all of the things that we want to do. And yes, it can be I don't want to say difficult. It can be a puzzle to figure that out, and you have to be willing for things to kind of come to you in different ways than what you have in your mind. But everything is totally possible.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yes, no, I completely agree. I think I remember hearing that like in your introduction. I found your podcast after I found you and I was like, oh, this is why I instantly loved her. Like, yes, that's exactly right.
Speaker 1:We have this, we this shared similar belief. Yes, yes, so I don't know what happened here. I've kind of like had a. I'm like what do I do next? But the next thing I always do is I always ask this question of what is your definition of a balanced life?
Speaker 2:Yes, oh, my gosh, okay. So I saw this like in the like notes section. I was like oh gosh. So I actually don't believe in a balanced life. I don't know, I don't think it exists.
Speaker 2:I think, or my version of it, is a life where you are able to prioritize what it is that you need and you want in a way that brings peace in the season that you're in. So like I think it changes season to season and I think that you have to be willing to prioritize what it is that you want in terms of balance. Like right now I'm launching a group offer, it's my first time building a backend and it's my first time working with a team, so that's a priority for me, but my kids are always the priority for me, and so, in order to bring about essentially that balance right, it took a lot of like you're talking about the puzzle piece lots of outsourcing, lots of talking about the outsourcing. I think you were the one that gave me this really amazing idea of like you need to organize your home first and then get a home manager, so that's exactly what.
Speaker 2:I did literally like hours later yes, yes, yeah, yes and so, but it's it's taken like what am I going to prioritize and what am I going to let go within, like the rest, in order to find a balance that makes sense for me in this very specific like season that I'm in. So I think, yeah, getting to know, like your needs and figuring out what you're going to let go of, but generally, I think it ebbs and flows season to season.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it really does. I mean thinking about this for myself, it really does. And before we hit the record button, we were just talking about how or I was telling you about how my kids are finally out of the house. So summer is always kind of its own season. It's figuring out where the kids are going to go.
Speaker 1:My oldest always goes to some kind of like all day camp, which is not it's not daycare, because they do some cool things my middle child this was the first time she wasn't in daycare and it was an interesting journey to figure that out and of course, my youngest is in daycare. But there's always something new that pops up with summer. I mean, even just a few years ago the pandemic had happened and that was, that was difficult for a lot of people, for almost everyone. Right to kind of figure out, especially if you were a mom during that time, how to still engage in the things that you enjoyed and love and the work that you, you know, choose to do, and also care for your children and care for yourself when everything was shut down, yeah, at a time when, like outsourcing, I imagine would have been really challenging during that time.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, how people were able to like outsourcing, I imagine would have been really challenging during that time. Like there's not so much help. People were able to like reach out for, oh my gosh, yeah, I was not a parent during the pandemic and anytime I hear about it, think about man working with parents during that time. I was just like go sit in the car and lock your doors if you need to, like make sure your children are cared for and go take a breather.
Speaker 1:For real. Yes, yes, because being with, being surrounded by your kids all day can be really overstimulating. I mean, we we were both talking about how our little ones, like, want to be held all the time when we're doing things. My youngest one is all of my kids were pretty what is that word? They wanted to be held, they wanted to be near me all of the time, whatever I did they were there.
Speaker 1:And that is a lot. I like to have my space, I like to not be touched. And also with breastfeeding my kids too, that was even like a whole other level of oh, like I'm being touched all the time and I just need to y'all need to go over there or I need to go somewhere else, because it can be a lot.
Speaker 1:And I'm definitely so glad that they're back in school. But it's the figuring out the season. So now that I'm in the season of they're, you know they're back at school and I have more space to breathe, more space to just be. Yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, absolutely Like what do you do with that space? What do you want to do with that space? I think it's a whole experience and it's something that, if you're not intentional about it, it can be really easy just to go on autopilot because you're so coming from a season of being so overstimulated. I don't know for me like I have to engage in body work because I really struggled to do that race setting on my own Like I need to go almost like wrestle my nervous system into some sort of regulation and I need to pay.
Speaker 2:Otherwise I probably won't do it on my own.
Speaker 1:What I mean. What type of body work do you? Do you do what is? What are some of your go-to things?
Speaker 2:so myofascial release is like a weekly or every other week. I can't go longer than a month with I mean I could, but I choose not to go longer than a month without it, because so it's like an energetic lead massage. It's wild, yeah, and it. It brings everything up and to the surface. I also really enjoy acupuncture and I do a lot of breath work when I feel pulled to it. That feels a little bit more spiritual, a little bit more like something usually needs to kind of be worked at, like at the nervous system or like unconscious level. But myofascial release for sure is like on a, like that's a regimen.
Speaker 1:I haven't heard of that type of massage, but it sounds amazing and, being in a small town, it's sometimes difficult to find people who are using these techniques. But can you explain a little bit more about your experience when you're going through the massage?
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh gosh, how do I explain it? So there's this concept of the body unwinding and it's the idea that, like at an unconscious level, like your body knows what it needs, and so if you can kind of like lay on the ground and if you can really sink into your body enough and let go of control enough that's always like my biggest challenge your body will move in certain ways that it needs to like unwind, unwind, like the tension that it's been holding all day. And so in the massage, typically, I walk in and I share you know, here's what's going on. But sometimes I don't, sometimes I'm like I just need to reconnect. And my massage therapist, she also does Reiki, so she will like she can feel the energy flowing in my body and she'll ask me like oh, did you feel that? And it's usually when, like a piece of my body is like heated up or like I start to feel like a zing or something. Or sometimes I don't feel anything, if I'm like really out of touch and like I don't help me, and so I'll share with her what's going on, but from there she'll be like I think we're going to start on your feet instead and basically like the way that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like the way that she talks about it is that she feels the movement, like in the current, in the fascia, and fascia is so if there's muscles, if you look at a tree, the muscles are the branches that kind of come out and all the little pieces in between, so the leaves and the little twigs, all of that is fascia. So it's a much more gentle approach to a massage. Like I went in initially and was like I like deep tissue and her name is Julie Julie Ray. She's amazing If you're in the Dallas area. She was like I like deep tissue and her name is Julie Julie Ray. She's amazing If you're in the Dallas area. She was like not everything needs to be painful in order to be healing and I was like like instant tears. I was like oh, my gosh, oh my gosh, I wasn't ready.
Speaker 2:So the movement, the pressure is very, very like very gentle and she like it almost feels like she's walking up to the tension and like knocking on the door and just waiting and then eventually, like my body relaxes a little bit and then she goes a little bit deeper and kind of like moves things. So the experience is so like it's different every single time and it's not like it's not routine. So I feel like with a typical massage at least my experience of it it was like we started one place in the body and you kind of like work your way through and you check all the boxes through and you check all the boxes. This is like sometimes I'll walk in and be like I just feel really disconnected from my own intuition and she works on like my left foot for like an hour or something, I don't know, like it's just yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no no that totally makes sense. I mean, it definitely makes sense to me and what kind of is coming to my mind is that going through? The way you describe it is that she's like knocking that tensions door and waiting for it to respond. So almost like creating this space of safety within your body to help your system, your nervous system, start to regulate. And these things are really important because oftentimes, when, when people, when moms are trying to regulate their nervous system, they're too focused on, like, the outside, it's harder to look within. It's more of only all of these things Like if only my child would sleep through the night or if only my husband would just do this, then everything would be good, when in reality it's. What can we change internally? What's going on within us, what needs to shift, or within our bodies, so that we can then be able to move with the things that are going on externally?
Speaker 2:yeah, yes, oh my gosh. Yeah, having a space to really truly just come home to yourself, it's great. And building building capacity, exactly like what you're saying, like in order to disrupt a pattern, especially if it is letting go of control, I don't know. I think about, like packing my daughter's lunch. I love to pack my daughter's lunch. I think it is so much fun and my husband has done it like a handful of times and that has taken such a big like release me asking one for help and being able to tolerate that in my nervous system of like recognizing I need this and then I'm going to let you do it.
Speaker 2:The way that you're going to do it and like all of that takes regulation and connection to myself, because he just like he packed a bunch of like snacks the very first time and I like lost my mind.
Speaker 2:It was like her most favorite lunch in the whole world oh my gosh yeah and I was like, oh my gosh, but it it takes like having that capacity to be able to like I'm gonna take a deep breath and I'm gonna like really anchor into actually this is what I need over here. And yeah, for me that just does not come natural.
Speaker 1:I need help yes, yes, and that was a. That's a really great example for like listeners to see, like how regulating your nervous system would be helpful, because then when you are asking for the support or trying to let go of things that's uncomfortable, yeah, and that that can throw you off, and so being able to have resources and tools to help you regulate your nervous system and stay regulated, it's going to be easier to move through that discomfort and get to the other side, to where maybe you're no longer feeling that discomfort anymore.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, that's what Julie talks about a lot, right, it's like we're trying to create connection and flow inside of your body because things are going to show up I mean, we know this as therapists like things are going to show up, it's about our capacity to ride the wave, but can you do that at, like, the body-based level and just really like hone that energetic connection and just like let it flow, let it go? Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yes, and I mean that really probably ties into the work you do right, because you're focused on, like, teaching mothers to build generational wealth through healthy marriages, regulated nervous system and they're healthy businesses.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, oh my gosh. Yeah, absolutely, I think it comes from like, the inside out. I think strategy is fantastic. I love strategy, I love living in my head and also, if you just take a strategy and you're like, okay, I'm going to go raise the rate, I'm going to go set a boundary, there's a reason that our business, our industry, is as lucrative as it is, like it is so challenging and you need more than just the surface level.
Speaker 2:Here's some tips you really have to like, get in and like. If you can't tolerate, and, energetically, if you're not like in alignment, to be able to receive that kind of care and that kind of like generational wealth is how I tend to think of it Then you're just going to be doing the same thing over and over again, which I think can be or at least this could be just my experience. It can be very unpopular opinion, right, like we really have to start at that foundational level. We have to get you in alignment. We have to work with like inner child. However, it is that you're doing it. That's how I do it. Otherwise, everything else that I give you is just going to like go in one ear and out the other and you're going to be on to the next program coach, like, whatever it is it's not.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, I mean just you said this might be an unpopular opinion. It can be because I had, I had left, and of course it's. It's those Facebook groups, right, that therapists often talk about how they can be really toxic, and I was a part of one and I had left a comment, and the comment was. The comment that I left was how I don't believe in coincidences. What is coming up for you that is like having this pattern be repeated and because there's possibly some unconscious belief that is going on here that is not allowing you to receive this rest that you need from your vacation. And this person did not take it well and had given a very long response, and my intention was not to hurt this person at all. I wasn't trying to criticize them, but unfortunately that's how they took it.
Speaker 1:And so, yes, this, this could sometimes be an unpopular opinion when I usually and it's funny because I usually will ask people if they want my take and I didn't like, oh well, this is why I needed this lesson for myself, because I did not ask them if they wanted my take on what's going on, and so that was my lesson for me. But, yes, I huge believer in terms of our inner world is reflected in our outer world.
Speaker 1:So if we can change the things that are going on internally with us and some of those things are going to be unconscious. The things that are going on internally with us and some of those things are going to be unconscious. Yeah, we don't. We don't always, we're not always aware of these things that are playing out for us, or some of these beliefs that are informing our decisions. Doing that internal work is so important and can really move the needle so much quicker than trying to change what's on the outside.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh my gosh. Yes, I think about. I don't know if I've shared this with you, but in one of one of the conversations we've had I don't know if it's Instagram or here, where it was I had said something about no one is going to pay $400 unless you're in person. And you were like, oh, I actually believe that, like if someone wants to work with you, they're going to do it no matter what, and I like really thought with that afterwards I was like, oh, that was totally like a limiting belief that was showing up for me, and like you're like that feels way more in alignment, actually, with what I believe at my core. But I think about how I would have heard that like three, four, five years ago. I would have felt so defensive and like what do you cause I? There was so much ego, right, like caught up in all of it and then you need to be right versus openness and like an invitation of it.
Speaker 2:just yeah, it really like that capacity and the work on the ego is such a game changer of being able to just hear something and like poof, like oh yeah, you're right, and like how much more open our world becomes when you're able to just receive things and get curious. I don't know, Think about your comment like how different that conversation could have been if there was just curiosity for that person, yeah, and even if that person came to me directly because, they gave this very long response in this very public setting, and I even thought about how this is why people struggle to help people.
Speaker 1:I think because they're afraid. Well, if I help them, how is this person going to think? Or if I don't help them, how is this person going to think? Or what if they don't like what I have to say? And we were even just talking about in I know it was on Instagram how I think someone was telling you how they haven't been as lucky in finding support systems, especially in the therapy world, of people wanting to help them or wanting to, you know, walk alongside them in this journey of, like private practice or whatever this person that you were talking about was was their journey is, and I think that's part of it where we're all doing something different, and it can be. It can be scary to ask and it can be scary to give, but if we never even try, then, we're gonna stay so disconnected in our field.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes oh. Yes.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, and I think about, like connection to abundance, right, you talk about that like within your community, building that like abundance, like mindset, it was like it. Just it makes a tremendous difference. I don't know, I jokingly I say I was like that. I carry, like girls, girl energy, like I want you to sit with me.
Speaker 2:I want to know what you're doing and I want to connect with like my 50 friends here, that I think you would really get along and, like your offers, would get along well, and I feel like life flows and is a lot more abundant If, even if you have to like white knuckle that belief at first, if it feels really scary like owning that and being like I'm going to do it anyway, and then eventually it just I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think things come a lot quicker and a lot easier when you can sort of be in that I would say vibration I don't know what another word for that would be, but yeah, yes, no, for real, and even thinking about this encounter that I had with that therapist, I'm not going to stop, you know, chiming in in these, in these Facebook groups, because there are people who want to hear what we have to say, and I, there's this. His name's James Wedmore. He is a. He has this program called business by design, but he has a podcast called cause. I I always accidentally call his podcast business by design, but his podcast is called mind your business, the mind your business podcast with James Wedmore, and he often talks about how there's always going to be problems, right, there's always going to be obstacles, and one of the things he says is the oh, I'm going to butcher it, but something along the lines of the problems we have are the problems that we're, that we're willing or ready to work through?
Speaker 1:because, through all of these problems we face it's, it's, it's building us for something more. And so me I mean the way that I was looking at this encounter was like me having this encounter, you know, kayla, a few years ago whoa, she probably would have been so hurt yeah devastated by the comment, but I took this as I took a step Like I was being visible here.
Speaker 1:I was showing up trying to support, you know, the therapist community and now I'm receiving some pushback. This problem is like the pushback because I'm being so visible, because I'm putting myself out there and have right.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, yeah. What is that saying? That saying new levels, new devils?
Speaker 1:yes, I believe in that.
Speaker 2:I absolutely believe that, like, yeah, you're gonna take a step. That is fantastic.
Speaker 1:It is just gonna serve up something new yeah, yeah, and what has also been kind of helping me, and that is also that saying of for every problem there there's a solution, like there was no problem that has no solution. You just have to be open to receiving whatever that solution is, and it's not always the first one that comes to our mind or the one solution that we want it to be.
Speaker 2:Yes, Yep oh my gosh. Yes, yep Season. Right now, my solution is to like let go and release control. And I was like right now, my solution is to like let go and release control.
Speaker 1:And I was like I don't love that, but like okay, here we go, yeah, and if you're, if you're listening, you're like, hmm, I don't know. I mean, I don't know about this. I would just challenge you to be curious about the things that we're talking about, because oftentimes we have this like not oftentimes we do we have this kind of guardian of the mind within ourselves that will sift and sort through the information that we're given. Because we're given so much information it takes a lot of energy to to listen and actually intake everything. So there's kind of this process within us that's like, yeah, I know that, or net, no, that's totally out, so I'm not even going to pay attention.
Speaker 1:But if we go into, like, if you were intentional or are intentional about listening to this podcast and are kind of curious, coming in with this curiosity is going to be helpful. What can I learn? What is a little bit in alignment with my own beliefs or what is making me uncomfortable Even sitting with that question, if you are feeling a little bit kind of uncomfortable with our topic today, but I challenge you to be open minded because you never know what you can gain from our topic today. But I challenge you to be open-minded because you never know what you can gain from our conversation today.
Speaker 2:Yes, yep, I love curiosity, I really. I think it is just like the allowing things to sit, allowing things to come to you as they're coming to you, and curiosity is such a gift, it's such a game changer, it is it really is, and one of the things that you do cause you do different stuff right.
Speaker 1:One of the things that you do is you focus a lot on helping moms overcome their top pain points to charge premium rates. Can you share some of the common barriers that mothers face when trying to increase their rates and how your coaching helps them break through these barriers? And when we're talking about this, we're talking about therapists here. So if you're a therapist mom on here listening today. This is for you.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, yeah, therapists are definitely my specialization. It's opened up a little bit more to like service providers in any sort of like health and wellness. It's been very surprising for me, but talking about receiving, I've kind of just been like, okay, let's see what happens. But anyway, yeah, I think the there's so many mindset blocks that get in the way for moms in particular because it's so easy as women in general, but man, especially as moms.
Speaker 2:Like your identity as mother is about giving. Typically, it is about putting this human and this is totally like a projection reflection of the season I'm in with like a little bitty baby, like that baby will straight up die if you don't take care of them. So they come first, right. But it's so easy to wrap more of your identity around giving and not wanting to make other people uncomfortable, and I see this like just generalizing into life in general. So quickly I also think about it even just like in toddlerhood, right, we're in that season two and it's so much easier to pop on Frozen. This is totally my life right now. For the 17th time we are in such a Frozen phase right now. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I hear let it go one more time. Actually, I love it, I like you, but it is so much easier to like placate my daughter, right, she's like wailing and screaming I want to watch it again versus.
Speaker 2:I know this is like really dysregulating for you. So, actually, we're going to learn how to be disappointed and we're going to turn it off and we're going to go outside. We're going going to do something different. And that translates into oh man, I don't want to raise my rate because then I'm not going to be able to work with this person. Right, I don't want to be judged by my colleagues, which, unfortunately, is such a thing in this particular industry. I think it's changing. I really do think it's changing, but I think that's still out there. And all of these like questions, right, you talked about, we have so much information coming in, for better and for worse, and all of that, I think, plays like it starts in parenting and it generalizes to business and like marriage. So, quickly thinking through well, have I done my part? Have I done X, y and Z? And if I do this, then this could happen, especially in a culture of like cancel culture, where you can so quickly be sold off the internet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's exactly how I felt when I read that comment. I was like, Ooh, Ooh, what's what's happening here?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yes, and it can happen like at the drop of a it's such, yeah, it's fast. I have so much to say about the culture, but yeah, I think, like the mindset blocks are so big that and then I really do think it is so uncomfortable to outsource and I truly believe that if you are a business owner and a mother and trying to have balance, trying to have it all, it's so chill, Like I, I have yet to I will not say never, but like I have yet to see a way to make all of that work without outsourcing and having a team of some sort.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean if you were making it work. If someone is making it work, I don't even want to say they're making it work. I want to say if they are doing everything, it's likely not working. They are burnt out, stressed, and even me, just crying about it, I can feel this like tension in my shoulders as I'm saying this, because it's not sustainable and if you are doing it.
Speaker 1:It's that's not healthy. Please, please find find some help to in learning to let go, because when you let go is is when everything else will flourish yes, yes, truly, which I think, and a lot of that can come to like trusting yourself too.
Speaker 2:Right, like we hired a house manager just the greatest gift ever and barely knocked our income into the ride and my whole thing was like but if we can get help, we we're going to pop into green and we're going to pop even more. So, like, and which is exactly what happened. But it that was a big like. Like had to go get body work done and extra question, and to be able to tolerate that discomfort of one, I can't do all of this too.
Speaker 2:I've absolutely had this fantasy of what it was going to be like to have two children and it's kicking me in the butt and it's totally like oh my gosh, and kind of reckoning with. Even with all the work that I've done, there's still these fantasies that I have of myself being able to shed that and then inviting someone else to come in in a way that, arguably, is kind of taking roles that I tend to view as like mother right, stereotypical, whatever, but I want to clean, I want to do the dishes, I want to whatever, and allowing someone to come in and care for us in that way.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I think all of that can be make it incredibly challenging for mothers to build that kind of generational wealth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. And it's so interesting that we're having this conversation because I've been diving more into looking at, like, masculine and feminine energy and I was just re-listening to a podcast about it's. It's it's a secret podcast, so I and that is from it's put on by Manifestation Babe, who's Catherine Zinkina, it's the why am I not remembering Sovereign Money? So this is a course that she's created, but the course is put on in a secret podcast, which I love because I don't I don't feel this pressure to like, okay, I have to sit down and watch this videos and like, okay, I can lay down and like listen to all of this information.
Speaker 1:But she was talking about my point. She was talking about, or giving some teaching on, masculine feminine energy and, as you were saying this, I think moms in business struggle to be in their feminine energy, be in that energy to receive and be taken care of. But that's that's important. There has to be.
Speaker 1:You can't just be in your masculine and taking charge and doing all of the things not all of the time. That that's exhausting as a woman, to be in this masculine energy all of the time, because we're usually more our natural is more in this feminine energy of receiving and being more in with our intuition, and so that that's kind of what came to my mind as you were explaining this and how we we do. We will like to hold on us as entrepreneurs who are running our own business but also having kids. It can be so easy to hold on to the masculine energy, and as I've been going through this this my own process of learning more about this I'm realizing that when I'm in my feminine energy, when I'm more in there, I feel so much better and so much more open.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I completely agree. I think for me it doesn't always feel good getting there. That tends to be a little bit of an internal struggle, but once I'm there it's great.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, no, I completely agree, cause it's like, but I need to do all of these things. It's like like, no, you don't, like other people can do this the way that you want it. And it's also, I think, weeding through that perfectionism, because I mean, my VA had created this beautiful mocktail book that I had asked her to make and I was kind of tweaking it, like looking in there and I'm like, oh, what if we change the color? I'm like I had to stop myself. Kayla, it doesn't matter. Like one little color of this background is not going to make the difference. Why are you spending time trying to do this when she did a beautiful job? Yeah, she completed the assignment. It's going to be great. It's going to do what it needs to do. Completed the assignment. It's going to be great. It's going to do what it needs to do. Changing this color is not going to be a big deal.
Speaker 1:Yes, yep yes, those little things that can pull us, that can make it feel difficult to like, allow ourselves to go back into the feminine and be open to receiving and just take it care of yes, oh my gosh, yeah, right, like it feeds the stories that we're telling ourselves. Like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:And if I did it, then here's the whatever fill in the blank yeah, yeah, yes, completely, I agree.
Speaker 1:So you also work with women C-suite women in, I want to say in, their marriages, but you don't do couple therapy, that's right.
Speaker 2:What does that look like? Yes, yeah, so I work with, yeah, c-suite women who have experienced childhood trauma and are working on their marriages, but I work with them individually. I also run groups with them because usually they slash. We because I absolutely relate need to work on like building intimacy and vulnerability, but a lot of what we're doing is inner child work, so we're getting in and figuring out how to essentially clean up their side of the street. That's the way that I talk about it. So when a client onboards with me, we are making sure that if they're actively working on their marriage typically they are are we connected with a couples therapist who's open to collaborating? Right, not every therapist is, but most of the time they are. And is your partner also in therapy? So are all three of us able to collaborate? Is everyone have sort of like their spaces? And then from there there's a lot of collaboration that happens between me and the therapists, but a lot of it is, I mean, revisiting childhood dynamic.
Speaker 2:Typically it is trauma, but that word is so like I don't know like it can be. It can't be either way. There typically are, because parenting is impossible, right, it just is. It doesn't mean we give up, but there are absolutely ways that we are going to harm our children with our own humanity at best, and it's going to impact them into adulthood.
Speaker 2:We all have work to do, and so it's revisiting those pieces and figuring out okay, where are these women now recreating these dynamics in their marriage, looking for a corrective experience that truly it could potentially have to do with their marriage, but usually it's like a sifting apart of like okay, does potentially have to do with their marriage, but usually it's like a sifting apart of like okay, does this have to do with your husband or does it have to do with your dad or your mom? And how can we sort of like reorient you to the source here of where these issues are actually taking place? And seeking either a corrective experience with your parents right, so, sharing with them, whatever, but more often than not, what I'm interested in is building security within themselves, because, in particular for these women so I do I specialize in working with, like the executives, the women who are they're running it right there in their masculine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so there's a difference from my perspective between being needless and wantless and not asking for anything versus actually taking care of yourself and being grounded and like just truly building, like secure attachment within yourself. And so that's where we're coming in with like inner child work. I work from a developmental perspective, so I talk about a little piece of you who's like five to eight and a teenager, someone who's in between 13 to 18. What are they asking for? Right? Usually especially for these women in particular they're asking to play, because there's not a lot of play happening in their life or there's a lot of seeking to fill want.
Speaker 2:So maybe getting Starbucks every day I totally do this, but avoiding what needs to be taken care of. So maybe I need to be sleeping eight hours a night. I need to go buy new underwear, like once a year, right, I found this one bit of ridiculous. I'm like please go, you should be doing that once a year, and we tend to like, no, I'm not going to do that. I'm going to get the Starbucks and that self-care, and also I'm going to buy my kid this like 57 doll or something like that.
Speaker 2:Right, it's so much easier to like go towards something that we want, but it's, it can very much be at the detriment of a need which is harming that attachment style that we're looking to reparent within ourselves. Because in adulthood I always say that, like you know, what happened to you is not your fault, but it's absolutely your responsibility to take accountability and to do something different. And what I find is that, yeah, yeah, like you know, the more that we can build that secure attachment within yourself, either the healthier your marriage is going to get or the quicker it's going to dissolve, because I don't believe that someone who who if both parties are not actively working, so it doesn't matter speed like these women are always very competitive I am too. I totally relate, but it's like I'm making progress faster than my husband, I like. Those words absolutely came out of my mouth when my husband and I were doing our work, and I don't think that that that matters.
Speaker 2:But are we heading in the same direction, right?
Speaker 2:And if we're not ultimately like this is not going to work. So that's sort of like my take and what that work looks like. I also run intensives things like that, but we're looking to pull women into a healthier pattern for themselves and as a way of disrupting and hopefully healing the marriage to like bring things closer. But I always tell people that's never, that's not a promise and it takes two and you never really know what you changing your pattern, is going to evoke from your partner.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's such an important thing to recognize and realize as you're going into any type of work, whether it's couples or individual work, and honestly, your therapist should be letting you know that that should be, talked about, because you still get to make the decision of okay, I'm making this choice to change for myself, no matter what happens, no matter what the consequence is like, you get to make that choice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's not just that things negative things are going to happen, or you're going to get a divorce because you go to therapy, but it's possible.
Speaker 2:You could Yep, yes, yeah, I think that it. Negligent might be a small strong word, but it does it just. I'm like oh man, but I believe it.
Speaker 1:No, it's like you're saying like bringing that up and it's negligent. Yeah, right Like for me, okay, okay.
Speaker 2:Well then no, that's not strong, but I think that it's a part of informed consent, especially if that is your flavor of therapy is to get in and really like do work at like the foundational level. You have to allow someone I don't know I talk about like consent-based sales right literally from the time that I'm on a phone call with a potential client, I'm letting them know like I'm not for everyone and your life is probably gonna like catch on fire for a few months and then it's gonna be fantastic, but like it's not all fun and games. And like come and like catch on fire for a few months and then it's going to be fantastic, but like it's not all fun and games. And like come and like sit on my couch and eat chocolate, like I'll offer you chocolate while everything is on fire, but like, depending on how things go, and all the dirt, like what the pieces look, like it's.
Speaker 2:It's not always going to be a good time. And it's really really hard work and it can, like it can, mess some stuff up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, just like when you're building, like when you're doing renovations in your home, there's always a demolition day. Yes, and when we're going through, when we're doing work, there's going to be a demolition time period, and that's what. That's what's kind of coming to my mind, where you're like things are going to be on fire and then, because after that, then there's room for the new, there's room for the rebirth, the growth, the newness.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, yep, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Well, we are about running out of time and like we can continue talking. I didn't even give you a chance to talk about the truth teller circle and I know you have another coaching program that's starting in September 1st, but can you give even like a little snippet of each?
Speaker 2:Yes. So truth teller circle super excited. That is an organization, a space for therapists who are interested in raising their rates, learning business skills it's. It's an accessible place because everything there is going to be free Eventually. I want there to be conferences, of course there's going to be like a ticket for that, things like that. But my whole perspective and vision behind that is like pulling back the curtain and really kind of sharing what does it take to build a business? That we see on Instagram, we see the highlight reel right and hopefully also connecting therapists with like-minded therapists. That down the road, one piece at a time. But for right now that takes the form of a free sharecast on Marco Polo.
Speaker 2:Honestly, where I get on and kind of just like spout stuff off. That's like in my head. So sometimes it's sharing like FYI, this is what a proposal looks like that I send to clients and they love it and like nine times out of ten they're saying yes, and here's that looks like. Sometimes it's me at like four o'clock in the morning, especially in the season of life that I'm in, that's when I work and it's like this is what it looks like to open up the house and to have the systems in place in my personal life to fuel this like business life. Um, so that's what the truth. Color circle is Uh, on Friday we're going to go hiking with tacos. That's a little bit of everything.
Speaker 1:Is that the piece where you're doing? I see you on Instagram posting about like a good Dallas therapist meetup. I don't know, I don't think you'd say Dallas, but you say a different therapist meetup. Okay, okay, cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yes, that's the hope is like so.
Speaker 1:I want like in-person retreats.
Speaker 2:I love that you like I know that you relate to that Um, and I want there to be like a virtual component as well, just because, like I'm connected with and working with people like in New York and Hawaii and Louisiana, like they're we're all spread out, so I want there to be kind of both. But yeah, so that is, that's that organization. And then my group coaching offer September 1st is I'm super excited. That is a small group, so we are capping at eight women and it's for therapists who are looking to raise their rates. What I'm finding as people are signing up is that it's also for therapists who want to be in this space where, like you, can be open and connect and want to really harness like their own stories and become more visible in their marketing in that way, but are nervous about doing that, and so there is kind of like a group therapy component to it. That I think is just beautiful.
Speaker 2:And I didn't necessarily expect it. I just know that I love groups and that is like my zone of genius when it comes to therapy. So it's like we have to do it for coaching. But that's part of what is like revealing itself. As I'm onboarding people for that process, I'm super excited. We have like a bunch of masterclasses. My network is coming to speak to this group. So my marketing coach, we're doing breath work. We're doing like all these different things. Yeah, I'm super excited. We're doing like all these different things. Yes, I'm super excited.
Speaker 1:That's amazing and such an example of what we were talking about earlier how, when we're open and we're not so stuck on having things be a certain way, when we're like the problem solution thing, like when our solution is just so focused, like if you were just so focused on no, I'm just helping people raise their rates, then you would not have been able to see this opportunity to also help therapists feel more confident in their marketing and become more visible.
Speaker 2:like that is also a solution to this same problem but we have to be open to those things, because we, you could have just been so stuck on like doing it this one way, yeah, and like maybe it wouldn't have worked yes, yes, oh my gosh, I completely agree, like when I was very intentional about surrendering to that, like that's when more people were signing up and like inquiring and things like that. I think there's something so beautiful about dancing like with life right In that way. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much, Brittany. I'm so glad that you came on here and gave us your time, and if anyone is wanting to get connected with you, what is the best way? To kind of be in your space, hang out get connected with you.
Speaker 2:Yes, so Instagram is definitely. I say that's my playground. I'm on like LinkedIn and like Facebook, things like that, but Instagram, like, I enjoy, I enjoy the community there, so I'm there. I also loved I'm pretty sure I did this too. I just like showed up in your DMs and was like I really enjoy you. We should grab a coffee. Yes, I'm like queen of going out and like friending people, I do the same.
Speaker 2:Yes, I love it so much so that's also a wonderful way to get ahold of me. Like I will grab a virtual coffee with just about like anyone. I love it. I think it's so much fun. So usually that happens through Instagram. It can also happen via email, so my email is Brittany at BrittanyMcGeeNPhDdcom, or either coaching, but I always forget to tell it. But, yeah, instagram is probably like the best way.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool, and I will get all that linked up in the show notes, so don't worry about trying to write that down. But thank you again and I hope you have a good rest of your week.
Speaker 2:Yes, Thank you. Thank you so much.